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I no longer remember the precise context for the quotation featured above, but like murder cases involving the drummers from heavy metal bands, it's probably a mystery "best left unsolved". Sometimes you really are better off not knowing.
This is the eighth year of the PDML Quotations List. If it keeps going much longer we'll have to celebrate the annual posting of the PDMLQL with a televised ceremony every year. Expect to see it on one of those low-rent cable networks — sandwiched in among programs like Bass Fishing for NASCAR Drivers and Antique Restoration Cage Fight and "infomercials" that explain how to lose weight while buying real estate for no money down. Probably in 3D.
This is the traditional lead-in to the annual PDML Book project, of which the Quotations List is a featured part. Perhaps "featured" might be overstating the matter somewhat — it's generally stashed in an appendix at the back of the book, hidden away like the slightly embarrassing relative you'd prefer people outside the family not to know about. (That may be a bad analogy for PDML members — I suspect most of us are the embarrassing relatives in our own families...)
As always, I have as included a quotation or two (or three — the only tradition is that lots of things change every year) from people completely unassociated with The List, simply because I can't pass up a good quotation if I think it's applicable to photography. Or if it's applicable to anything else we discuss on the PDML. Which means it can be applicable to anything at all.
So on that note, let's dive into this year's list, the annual PDML compendium of wisdom on the subject of photography... and beer, cormorants and motorcycles.
I'd quite like to be in next year's book as a photographer, not a smart-arse.
— Bob Walkden
Wherever I am, that's what I shoot. Whatever the results are, that's what they are.
— Frank Theriault
Part of the skill is knowing when you need to grab a bigger hammer.
— Larry Colen
'Level' is a relative term.
— Rick Womer
It was an awful lot like work, except for the bit about the paycheck.
— Larry Colen
I've taken over a thousand photos so far with the camera. 99.999999% are crap and the rest are not quite crap.
— Kenton Brede
I like it so much so that I'm tempted to cut off all contact with you, henceforth.
— Walt Gilbert
Any species that can paint the Sistine Chapel ceiling and write Moby Dick and put someone on the moon does not have to settle for McDonald's toadburgers, novels by Judith Krantz, and American Idol.
The PDML is a place of comfort and insanity for the weary traveler.
— Steve Desjardins
It's not a cormorant, but it is a great image!
— Dan Matyola
If I was offered a big discount, as fiscally foolish as it would be, I'd be molesting my credit card to get one.
— Larry Colen
I'm waiting for the K3. It can take pictures at an ISO so high you won't have to remove the lens cap.
— Steve Desjardins
The notion that a photographer should be treated as little more than an hourly wage (earner) is repugnant beyond comment.
— Ctein, on The Online Photographer
If she is a Canon shooter you may never get the K-5 back. She may just send your her used 5D.
— Dave Brooks
I used my Morgan Freeman voice, to emphasize the truth in my statement.
— Miserere
When I say, 'The body feels great in my hands', I mean it's a camera.
— Godfrey DiGiorgi
If I was you I'd move to a country where they don't have things like that.
— Bob Walkden
Digital since 2001. Scaring bears since 1983.
— Dave Brooks
Only one way to settle this. Cormorants at Dawn.
— Doug Brewer
I know that better gear will not make me a better photographer. Better gear makes up for my being a crappy photographer, allowing me to get the photos anyway.
— Larry Colen
If I can afford it, it is inexpensive.
— Bran Everseeking
It was a fine example of technical prose, with a subtext of drooling.
— Steve Desjardins
Don't worry about committing Art yet.
— Doug Brewer
Truth is for when all else fails.
— P.J. Alling
Does it work in the daylight as well? Or is it a vampire camera that can only come out after dark?
— Stan Halpin
It's amazing how much better some images look when viewed from a couple of rooms away.
— Walter Gilbert
If I found I had to adjust for the performance of the camera in some way other than I already do, I'd chuck it.
— Tom Cakalic
You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm.
— Mike Wilson
For all its wonders, Photoshop can't turn a crappy photographer into a good one.
— Walter Gilbert
It's the shots I don't get that bother me.
— Matthew Hunt
Why worry about gear? I need ideas.
— Eckehard M. Wegner
I suspect there is a lot of information that is not visible on a turned-off display.
— Charles Robinson
Mark's got a point, Steve. He might not necessarily be right, but he's got a point!
— Boris Liberman
I could kick my dog instead. But why, when there's Pentax?
— Tom Cakalic
I suspect that there is a lesson to be learned about processing and posting pictures while still a bit drunk.
— Larry Colen
A rotten lens builds character and thoughtful technique. It also takes rotten pictures.
— Steve Desjardins
I'm at my best when I'm really annoying.
— Cotty
Tools for men are like shoes for women. Sometimes a crimson pump really is the only one that works.
— Doug Franklin
You can't have a relationship with a device whose limits are unknown to you, because without limits it keeps becoming something else.
We Pentaxians are damned short on hubris.
— Steve Desjardins
I'm a cloning tool whore.
— Paul Stenquist
Slings and arrows of outrageous commentary invited.
— Rick Womer
The cormorant was chosen as 'Bird of the Year' by German environmentalist organization NABU. While I doubt that this was done in long overdue recognition of the PDML, it is nonetheless nice.
— Eckehard M. Wegner
I'm always at least one flagship behind the times so I'm used to reading about how terrible my current camera is.
— Steve Desjardins
Cameras have been perfect for decades.
— Bob Walkden
It's amazing what a country will do to secure a supply of honey to go with their crumpets.
— Dave Savage
The good thing about editing is that I can appear competent.
— David Mann
Very interesting way to spend one's time in the loony bin.
— Joseph McAllister
I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I hope it helps anyway.
— Ira H. Bryant
If the people on this list only answered the questions that were asked then the list would have died off ages ago!
— Ira H. Bryant
I have to ask: If people are too dense to realise they look like the wrong end of a Tom and Jerry frying pan incident, why bother?
— Mike Wilson
Nothing in photography is a sin (except some really sinful things of course).
— Boris Liberman
Beware, people. Things seen can't be unseen.
— Anthony Farr
I didn't ever think I'd use these words in a single sentence, but I agree everything with Cotty says here.
— Chris Mitchell
Just the experience of having a tripod of my height is exhilarating!
— Fernando Terrazzino
Any harm I can do Adobe will be done with a song in my heart.
— Mike Wilson
What's the point of being a photographer when someone like McCurry is so damned good?
— Bob Walkden
Canada Geese are the next best thing if you run out of cormorants.
— Chris Mitchell
They were a little nuts, but they had good long lives.
— Paul Stenquist
May not be able to tell the difference between soft and sharp, but at this point would prefer sharp.
— Eric Weir
Well, she's naked!
— Bob Sullivan
I was dead sober as well, but I'm hoping to change that soon.
— Paul Stenquist
I spent 5 years in the Marine Corps, so I've been abused by professionals; it is unlikely this friendly group could hurt my feelings.
— Dan Matyola
I would like to keep the list from becoming a Flickr group, where every photo is wonderful.
— Doug Brewer
I learned a lot from him — although I still know nothing.
— Dan Matyola
Most of these photos will not survive a more serious cull, but right now they don't make me spew.
— Doug Brewer
I find that art is easy to define. What I find difficult is to get two or more people to agree on a definition.
— Doug Franklin
A good lens is like syphilis: you get it from your friends.
— Bob Walkden
Actually, I do have a lot of dust on my sensor, but those are definitely birds.
— Frank Theriault
I'm happiest when I'm annoying.
— Doug Brewer
I'd like to buy my wife a K-x so I can use it.
— Bob Sullivan
I love you man, and I've never even met you. Seen your stomach on a webcam sure, but never met you.
— Cotty
One man's charming is another's charmin.
— Mike Wilson
Beauty continues to be in the eye of the beholder.
— Jerry in Arizona
That's why I always wear safety glasses.
— John Sessoms
No reason not to collect money from the rich idiots if they're already collecting it from us poor idiots.
— Miserere
I own bagpipe records.
— Bob Sullivan
That wasn't a camera review, it was a total fuck-up by someone who drinks too much.
— Bill Robb
It's sort of an alpine-chalet-meets-psychotic-glazier design theme.
— Doug Franklin
I never buy zooms. I find running back and forth a good source of exercise.
— Steve Desjardins
Email lists are like Star Trek with timelines and wormholes.
— Cotty
LBA never got me a better buzz.
— Bruce Walker
Personally I think art status is irrelevant, but I suppose it gives the pointy heads something to talk about.
— Bob Walkden
You got on a boat with Tim?!?
— Rick Womer
If I'm going to dislike his work and roll my eyes at it, I'd rather do it in front of a print than in the Photography aisle of a bookstore.
— Miserere
The interface is about as intuitive as Photoshop's, which isn't saying much.
— Miserere
I think she was actually dipping the kids in plastic and then airbrushing them.
— Bill Robb
Paychecks are nice, but jobs do get in the way of important things.
— Larry Colen
I'd say that the white balance is good and your subject is wrong.
— Bill Robb
If my standards were any more relaxed, they'd slip into a coma.
— Larry Colen
That's a really nice picture in a barking mad sort of way.
— Bob Walkden
I've clearly been influenced by the financial planning methods of the PDML.
— Steve Desjardins
A lens design doesn't have to be very good to be diffraction-limited at f/32-64.
— Matthew Hunt
Great stuff. Brought back the 60's for me, not that I ever left.
— Dave Brooks
I can see my 99 pence budget for the last card reader won't cut it.
— Malcolm Smith
I would suggest searching the PDML archive for 'cormorant', but you'd probably get more hits from that than you would Googling 'sex'.
— Bob Walkden
The answer to all photographic questions is 'it depends'.
— Doug Brewer
I think perhaps a better title may help the image to work but if it doesn't speak for itself it is probably not a keeper.
— Eckehard M. Wegner
I may be wrong, but I did write what I meant.
— John Sessoms
First I stopped selling pictures, then I stopped commenting pictures and now I'm just letting people see them.
— Dag Thrane
Lightroom is part of the 'Photoshop Family'. Which means it's related to Photoshop in the way that Michael Corleone is related to Vito Corleone.
— Bob Walkden
I was thinking it was all probably for the betterment of humanity... but if Doug is involved I'm not so sure.
— Corey Waters
Since those full-frame cameras are also out of my range, I might as well be picky about things I can't have.
— Steve Desjardins
I'm born in 61, so I'm hip towards any group activities, if I'm coming.
— Tim Øsleby
It really is enlightening to sit around a table, drinking beer and talking photography, not gear.
— Dave Savage
To hell with photography, it's enlightening just to sit around a table drinking beer.
— Bob Walkden
I'm not normally a 'tattoo guy', but the young lady with the tats is kind of making me feel a bit tingly right now.
— Frank Theriault
I do have exceptionally cultured cheese ...
— John Francis
Not owning any exotic lenses, these knobs were completely alien to me.
— Miserere
I'm in it for the photographs, not the journey of processing!
— Godfrey DiGiorgi
Tilted is the new straight.
— Miserere
Time to invest in a slinky dipole.
— Larry Colen
My keyboard just shorted out from the drool running down my chin.
— Christian Skofteland
Hell was designed by Adobe.
— Steve Desjardins
If it's not a cell phone camera, it's niche.
— Graydon Saunders
Tastes differ, of course. Whatever the device, the content is still king.
— Jostein Øksne
No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service.
— Ralf Radermacher
Back when I joined, the PDML was all done with semaphore and relays of hilltop bonfires.
— Bob Walkden
They might be OK for someone that doesn't know their aperture from a hole in the ground.
— Larry Colen
I am toying with the notion of spending some money.
— Stan Halpin
You may obtain this info easily for the Mac. Just open the terminal and enter: ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6
— Martin Trautmann
I support any event that features athletic women wearing neoprene wetsuits!
— Frank Theriault
Vulgar ostentation is twice as easy as discipline.
— Beatrice Warde (1900 - 1969)
Fashion photography is trivial... unless I'm getting paid to do it.
— John Sessoms
Time to switch to Thunderbird — The e-mail client, not the wine.
— Paul Sorenson
As an addendum, 'pleased' is as high as my lens meter goes. I reserve 'overly thrilled' for sex with nubile virgins.
— Paul Stenquist
'Virgin' was used in a metaphorical sense here. It's a symbol for young, pure, and beautiful. I don't really want one. (Well, maybe just one.)
— Paul Stenquist
There were no cormorants in the square that day, so I included Canadian content as consolation.
— Chris Mitchell
Very calmly now, place the camera on the floor and step away from it.
— John Sessoms
A cormorant isn't a bird, it's a state of mind.
— Bob Walkden
Fine-boned ladies will let you take their picture with their pig. What's not to enjoy?
— Derby Chang
I wasn't going to post it because it's blurry even by my standards.
— Frank Theriault
Perfection is boorrring.
— Jack Davis
I would not want to live in a world where I could only have one prime.
— Derby Chang
Needs 30 degree tilt and more snow, other than that, great.
— Dave Brooks
It still might not be funny, but it's what I meant to type.
— Christine Aguila
No wonder I have no idea what's going on.
— Bran Everseeking
Wisdom is simply the knowledge that we're not as smart as we once were.
— Paul Stenquist
Is it just me or does DP Review seem to be so into navel gazing that they'll plant their heads up their own butts to see it from the inside?
— P.J. Alling
Could you speak up a bit? I can't hear you over the sound of our awesomeness.
— Bill Robb
This resulted in a sudden vision of dozens of PDMLers clawing away at mashed potatoes with forks to produce 8-foot-high cormorants.
— Cotty
I would just like the PDML to know, that come May, I am not spending my late night GFM campfire social hour chasing a worm.
— Christine Aguila
I have to confess that I keep straining to find something that's in focus.
— Frank Theriault
Being full of joy I have decided to relax my normally Talibanic rule of not mucking about with pictures.
— Bob Walkden
I would particularly like to commend Bill Robb on his excellent grasp of Anglo-Saxon. He makes Beowulf sound like Doris Day.
— Bob Walkden
I speak more Welsh than Aramaic. I can count to 7 in Welsh and say hello.
— Bob Walkden
Hello Kitty leads to dating bikers at age 14.
— Tim Bray
It seems that I need to stop my mind running off at the fingertips.
— Mike Wilson
If Isaac Newton hadn't discovered gravity, one of us surely would have.
— Tom Cakalic
I like the DA35. It makes me look like I might know what I'm doing.
— Graydon
I like the loud shutter. Then again, I have a Harley.
— Steve Desjardins
If I had this lens I could probably attend GFM without actually going there.
— Miserere